Illinois vs Indiana Senior All-Star Duals

[aaafan]

I'm certain the IL Coaches will determine who wrestles, but I will say, if you win 3A State, you better believe you deserve to be considered the best IL wrestler in the State at your weight. 3A is deeper, 3A kids usually have a tougher schedule, etc. Unless there is a clear case, like Richards this year, I can practically guarantee college recruiters would agree that a 3A State Champ is the default choice for best wrestler in the State at their weight. I know Reel is arguable, but if you want to wager on him over McMurtry, I'll take McMurtry. Heck, I'd take Moylan, Scneider, Residori, Brooks, Johnson too. Not to slight anyone, but they did it, in 3A, and that does mean something, like it or not.

[calotofwrestling]

Originally Posted by Leg-rider

Not that I care who is better but basically u r saying mayes doesnt deserve it. What makes them deserve it anymore? Because they wrestle 3a or just because you THINK not KNOW they would beat him?

Moylan deserves it due to the fact that he has wrestled national events in the past agianst top notch kids and is nationally ranked.Nothing against Mayes but I don't believe he's wrestled the competition.Moylan best win this year was against Brill and Mayes best win was who ?.Not sure if he beat another state placer this year besides the ones he wrestled at state.Not taking anything away from Mayes but Moylan is on a different level.

[wrestle42]

As a program, Mayes tried to see the best. A small program like Mascoutah went to Lincoln where Max went 152 not mayes fault.
Then traveled to Quincy hoping to get something. He beat Agnew who
was ranked 1 and then they moved Agnew to 5 in the rankings and Mayes to 3. The two infront of him ranking wise could not touch him but live in the right demographics I guess????? 3 state champs from the south??? 2A Must just be week but the south can not be good.HA

[calotofwrestling]

Originally Posted by wrestle42

As a program, Mayes tried to see the best. A small program like Mascoutah went to Lincoln where Max went 152 not mayes fault.
Then traveled to Quincy hoping to get something. He beat Agnew who
was ranked 1 and then they moved Agnew to 5 in the rankings and Mayes to 3. The two infront of him ranking wise could not touch him but live in the right demographics I guess????? 3 state champs from the south??? 2A Must just be week but the south can not be good.HA

Not saying anything is weak or the south is good what I am saying is that Moylan is on a different level that's all.And I don't think you will find to many knowledgable wrestling fans that wouldn't agree.And Mayes did beat Coggeshall 6-3 (A 3rd 145) and he had a win over Chad Whitford 152 AAA qualifier.Not seeing any wins that are as big as beating Brill or Holler.

[bwm57]

Any idea when or where they will be listing the names of the Illinois wrestlers who are participating?

[Chicago Style]

Originally Posted by aaafan

I'm certain the IL Coaches will determine who wrestles, but I will say, if you win 3A State, you better believe you deserve to be considered the best IL wrestler in the State at your weight. 3A is deeper, 3A kids usually have a tougher schedule, etc. Unless there is a clear case, like Richards this year, I can practically guarantee college recruiters would agree that a 3A State Champ is the default choice for best wrestler in the State at their weight. I know Reel is arguable, but if you want to wager on him over McMurtry, I'll take McMurtry. Heck, I'd take Moylan, Scneider, Residori, Brooks, Johnson too. Not to slight anyone, but they did it, in 3A, and that does mean something, like it or not.

Sorry but your facts are wrong. Many 2a schools wrestle harder scheduals. Like Montini Marmion, Crystal Lake Central Etc. It just depends on the weight. 138 2a was much harder than 3a. However 152 3a was much harder than 2a. It just depends.

[wrestle42]

Illinois very fortunate to have some of the best kids in the country. I am
sure they are all deserving. I am sure Max and the others are deserving. I just happend to also think Mayes is as well. I wish he was fortunate enough to wrestle for a great program. Best of luck to all the kids. I am sure they all deserve it.

[Dinner time all-star]

Originally Posted by james buss sr.

this is my team
106 A Gonzalez
113 J parvinmehr
120 M Garelli
126 E Kilmara
132 Z Richards
138 A silvestro
145 K moylan
152 M schneider
160 D Reel
170 N Jackson
182 S Brooks
195 G harrah
220 J Marchok
285 J Buss

Looks tough but parvinmehr is hurt and does any one have indiana's line-up.

[MSMW]

Since where talking about mayes here I definitely think he should be on the all star team great shot and re-shot reaction and never stops trying to move and tries to keep scoring hope he lands D1 scholarship impressed me a lot down at state

[calotofwrestling]

Originally Posted by MSMW

Since where talking about mayes here I definitely think he should be on the all star team great shot and re-shot reaction and never stops trying to move and tries to keep scoring hope he lands D1 scholarship impressed me a lot down at state

I also think Mayes should be on 1 of the teams I just believe Moylan should be the first 145 lb wrestler to be asked and Mayes #2.Mayes is a good wrestler and smart kid with tons of upside that a college coach will be happy to have.