Predictions

[MatPak126155]

whats going on at 135,,its a class i havent heard much about

[falcon litl]

A pretty impressive class, 135 is loaded. I've seen several kids with a shot

[wrestle45]

Originally Posted by blackmanx10

95 prediction off

95 is off kupets from caruso beat nieses

[FishArt]

Originally Posted by nosretep

Well it would be nice to be able to at least go down there before he wrestles so i could put a little something in his head before he wrestles ,but whatever iesa decides we can do is alright with me still dont like to count my chickens before they hatch alot of wrestling to get done first. We are fairly confident in his abilities and he has shown alot of improvement in his strength over the last few months.

Just a suggestion, but I would be very careful about putting anything into my kids head. Best thing to do is let his coaches do the talking. I personally think the best thing is to discuss strategy or focus on certain moves IF anything at all is going to be said. Worse thing you can do IMO is start getting a kid thinking too much.

Yes, don't count your chickens before they're hatched. Keep in mind that the luck of the draw in the IESA plays a big part. Both years my kid made it to the Semifinals those Semifinal matches IMO were the State Championship matches. The current system only guarantees that the best wrestler wins. After that, theoretically speaking (I'm not a stat man, so I don't know the odds) the Runner-Up could actually only be the third, 4th, 5th best wrestler in the tourney. Since there's no seeding, it's actually far WORSE than a regular tourney. Be prepared for the Semi's. It COULD be the Championship match...

[nosretep]

Originally Posted by FishArt

Just a suggestion, but I would be very careful about putting anything into my kids head. Best thing to do is let his coaches do the talking. I personally think the best thing is to discuss strategy or focus on certain moves IF anything at all is going to be said. Worse thing you can do IMO is start getting a kid thinking too much.

Yes, don't count your chickens before they're hatched. Keep in mind that the luck of the draw in the IESA plays a big part. Both years my kid made it to the Semifinals those Semifinal matches IMO were the State Championship matches. The current system only guarantees that the best wrestler wins. After that, theoretically speaking (I'm not a stat man, so I don't know the odds) the Runner-Up could actually only be the third, 4th, 5th best wrestler in the tourney. Since there's no seeding, it's actually far WORSE than a regular tourney. Be prepared for the Semi's. It COULD be the Championship match...

Fishart i value your opinion, but i have taught my son everything he knows about wrestling not the coach all they have done is work him in practice and i have coached wrestling in the ikwf for several years and placed second in state at the highschool level so i know the sport as well as anyone maybe better than most so i think i know what makes my son tick. I am also a motavater in this sport not just with my son ,but with other kids also, alot of the wrestlers on the harvard squad come talk to me before a match. In most cases i have something good to give them before they wrestle their apponnent, I believe i know what i am talking about so me saying something to my son before a match is always a good thing and i will always continue to do so.

[FishArt]

Originally Posted by nosretep

Fishart i value your opinion, but i have taught my son everything he knows about wrestling not the coach all they have done is work him in practice and i have coached wrestling in the ikwf for several years and placed second in state at the highschool level so i know the sport as well as anyone maybe better than most so i think i know what makes my son tick. I am also a motavater in this sport not just with my son ,but with other kids also, alot of the wrestlers on the harvard squad come talk to me before a match. In most cases i have something good to give them before they wrestle their apponnent, I believe i know what i am talking about so me saying something to my son before a match is always a good thing and i will always continue to do so.

Well, I guess just keep doing whatever you're doing then - lol!

Just keep in mind that wrestling and coaching wrestling are two totally different animals. I wrestled in college and I have a teaching and coaching background. And, I've taken several coaching courses and certification classes in kids sports and have coached kids sports for many years. One thing I've learned through the years is learning how to coach kids well was even more challenging than cracking that D3 Wrestling lineup! (And I had two Iowa State Champs in my weight class!) In coaching, every kid is different. There's all sorts of challenges coaching and I was learning something everyday. Just because one was a successful wrestler in high school or college doesn't necessarily translate into being a great coach. In fact, it couldn't be further from the truth. Kids at this level don't need a State Champ coach. Heck, they don't need them at any age! In fact, my kid excelled when I backed off and let the other coaches do their thing. I attribute his success to hard work and the melting pot of great coaches he has had through the years (and certainly not myself). He (we) learned something important from every one of his coaches. And much of that learning wasn't just moves. Now, Peterson I'm not saying you are or aren't good at motivating your kid and others. Keep doing what you're doing. This is just general advice to the parents. If you want to coach, get certified and volunteer. Otherwise, let the coaches do their jobs. Ask ANY coach what their biggest challeneges are and I can guarantee you it's not dealing with the KIDS...

[nosretep]

Originally Posted by FishArt

Well, I guess just keep doing whatever you're doing then - lol!

Just keep in mind that wrestling and coaching wrestling are two totally different animals. I wrestled in college and I have a teaching and coaching background. And, I've taken several coaching courses and certification classes in kids sports and have coached kids sports for many years. One thing I've learned through the years is learning how to coach kids well was even more challenging than cracking that D3 Wrestling lineup! (And I had two Iowa State Champs in my weight class!) In coaching, every kid is different. There's all sorts of challenges coaching and I was learning something everyday. Just because one was a successful wrestler in high school or college doesn't necessarily translate into being a great coach. In fact, it couldn't be further from the truth. Kids at this level don't need a State Champ coach. Heck, they don't need them at any age! In fact, my kid excelled when I backed off and let the other coaches do their thing. I attribute his success to hard work and the melting pot of great coaches he has had through the years (and certainly not myself). He (we) learned something important from every one of his coaches. And much of that learning wasn't just moves. Now, Peterson I'm not saying you are or aren't good at motivating your kid and others. Keep doing what you're doing. This is just general advice to the parents. If you want to coach, get certified and volunteer. Otherwise, let the coaches do their jobs. Ask ANY coach what their biggest challeneges are and I can guarantee you it's not dealing with the KIDS...

I think we lost track of what this thread is about. Someday i would like to meet you and talk wrestling, and both of our ideas on what it takes to be a coach. One thing i do know and i think you will agree on is a certificate doesnt mean you will be a good coach, just like that stripped shirt doesnt make you a good ref, it takes a good understanding of the sport and a good understanding of the kids you are coaching. I agree you can not treat them all the same they respond to you in thier own way.

[FishArt]

I agree Peterson. I honestly didn't learn a whole heck of a lot in the coaches courses I took and to get certified. A lot of it I learned getting my teaching degree and a lot is common sense, for most people. But, the courses do force you to think and I think they're great for beginners that may think they have nothing to learn and as a refresher for more experienced coaches. I DO think they also help make so-so coaches less psycho! Sorry to deviate, but you know how threads always take turns. I won't hijack anymore - lol!

My prediction is there's going to be a lot of bored parents in another two weeks - lol!

[nosretep]

Originally Posted by FishArt

I agree Peterson. I honestly didn't learn a whole heck of a lot in the coaches courses I took and to get certified. A lot of it I learned getting my teaching degree and a lot is common sense, for most people. But, the courses do force you to think and I think they're great for beginners that may think they have nothing to learn and as a refresher for more experienced coaches. I DO think they also help make so-so coaches less psycho! Sorry to deviate, but you know how threads always take turns. I won't hijack anymore - lol!

My prediction is there's going to be a lot of bored parents in another two weeks - lol!

I agree its back to baseball for the spring and summer its a little less intense. Though my son will be moving on to highschool i look forward to talking to you on the iesa threads.

[pokey]

make a big sign with your kids name on it, then when he wins a very close and iffy decision, stand on the back of the chair givin to you by the iesa for parents to watch the finals and hold the sign up and sceam " what up now? what up now? yea that should ruin it all for matside parents for finals. by the way, do it while the 12 yr old wrestler that your son just beat is lieing on the mat 10 ft away crying because he just had his state championship dreams crushed that he had worked is but off in a practice room for years to achieve,meanwhile this rude nasty mom was probably sitting at home sucking down bon-bons and counting her welfare checks