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Old 04-22-2010
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Weight Class Changes

Any word on the possibility of changing the weight classes. Wasnt the meeting this month???????????
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Old 04-22-2010
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Any word on the possibility of changing the weight classes. Wasnt the meeting this month???????????
I look for a weight class determination by NFHS in the near future. Here is a summary of their discussion at last years April meeting:



NFHS Wrestling Rules Committee – April 2009 Meeting
Wrestling Weight Class Information
1. Review of current NFHS wrestling weight classes.
a. The committee reviewed the surveys from the 2009 NFHS wrestling weight class survey, the Tennessee experiment on 7 or 10 weight classes and the data provided by the
National Wrestling Coaches Association (NWCA).
2. The committee has agreed on the following four concepts:
a.
Recommend that 14 weight classes be retained.
Rationale
: The 2009 NFHS wrestling weight class survey supported this recommendation. 27 states wanted to retain 14 weight classes while only 8 wanted a reduction in weight classes. It was further supported by data provided by the NWCA that for every one weight class dropped we would have a reduction of 20,000 opportunities across the country for students to wrestle.
b.
Recommend that weight classes need to be reviewed and/or modified according to
the data available to service the greater numbers in the sport of high school
wrestling.
1. Information that the committee felt was important to review and consider are as
follows:
Participation numbers at current weight classes and any revised weight classes using current data.
Divide the participation numbers equally by alpha weight, another one by the 7% weight and another one by the final minimum weight.
Divide out with year in school for each weight class when providing the number of wrestlers in a possible weight class.
Number of individuals that might be able to wrestle at different weight classes.
Number of forfeits at current weight classes.
Percent of individuals that will have an opportunity to wrestle at that weight class.
See if it is possible to compare this data to the demographics of the general high school age student across the country.
c.
Recommend that once weight classes have been determined –minimum weight class
limits be reviewed for the two lowest weight classes and the top two weight classes.
1. The committee felt that before anyone could determine if minimum weight restrictions needed to be in place for the bottom two or top two weight classes the weight classification needed to be established. The NFHS Sports Medicine Advisory Committee will need to provide feedback in this area and/or collect data necessary to allow the NFHS Wrestling Rules Committee the opportunity to make an informed decision on this issue.
d.
Recommend that the option to allow state association to have fewer weight classes than 14 could be reviewed in a year or so, once data has been collected to compare the new weight classes with data from the old weight classes.
1. We need to have comparable data to insure that the weight class change was a success or prove that it was a failure. One area that needs to be reviewed would be the forfeit data that we currently have and compare it to the forfeit data after a year with the new weight classes.
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And here is the subsequent proposal. This is a very interesting read as to how they came up with the 14 weight classes:

http://www.mpssaa.org/assets/winters...s%20(2009).pdf


I couldn't cut and paste without it looking really messy. If someone else could do that, it would be great because it is quite informative.

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I understand the vote will be Monday. The weight class proposals are as follows:

Now A B C
103 110 106 107
112 119 113 115
119 125 120 122
125 131 126 128
130 136 132 134
135 141 138 140
140 146 145 146
145 152 152 152
152 159 160 159
160 167 170 167
171 177 182 177
189 192 195 192
215 216 220 216
285 285 285 285
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I always wondered how they came up with the numbers. If there was any rhyme or reason.
This is how they came up with the weight classes for the specific proposals. Very informative:



RATIONALE FOR WRESTLING WEIGHT CLASS OPTIONS
FROM THE NFHS WRESTLING RULES COMMITTEE
CURRENT:
These current 14 weight classes have been in place since 1995.
The 215-pound weight class was added in 2002.
In 2006, the 275-pound weight class was increased to 285 pounds.
These weight classes were developed from a survey that the NFHS Wrestling Rules Committee administered in 1994-95.
OPTION A:
The weights were created from looking at the hydrated body weight at the time of assessment of 195,000 wrestlers from the NWCA Optimal performance calculator.
Each weight class was created to have approximately 7.14% of the wrestlers.
Equal distribution of wrestlers in each weight class.
Eliminates one of the first three weight class. Combines 103, 112 and 119 into two weight classes.
OPTION B:
The weights were created from looking at the minimum wrestling weight (7% weight) at the time of assessment of 195,000 wrestlers from the NWCA Optimal Performance Calculator.
Each weight class was created to have approximately 7.14% of the wrestlers.
Equal distribution of wrestlers in each weight class.
Adds an 'additional' weight class at the top.
Creates a weight class in the low 180-pound range.
OPTION C:
The weights were based off using the hydrated body weight at the time of assessment of 195,000 wrestlers from the NWCA Optimal performance calculator.
Percentages of distribution was between 7-8%. The first three weights were distributed in the mid 6% range. This ensured that you did not eliminate the 'small' wrestler not being represented.
Data supports moving 103 to 107 would greatly increase the number of eligible wrestlers for the first weight class.
Will decrease the large jump from 103-112-pounds.
Changes the middle weight increments from 5-pounds to 6-pounds.
Eliminates the large jump between 171-189-pounds. Makes that a 15-pound jump from 177-192-pounds.
The prevalence of HS wrestlers (N=195,000) at each of these weight classes, there is an equal distribution (~7%) of wrestlers for each of the weight classes listed. In addition, when reviewing the national data on children from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES published 1995), these weight classes are consistent with the 5th - 95th percentile data on weight for adolescent males aged 15-19
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i like "c"
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Anyone else see this??

http://www.themat.com/section.php?se...rticleID=21929

Seems as if they voted not to change the weight classes.
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Anyone else see this??

http://www.themat.com/section.php?se...rticleID=21929

Seems as if they voted not to change the weight classes.
I read that earlier. I like that they had to outline "Appropriate" dress for weigh in's. Seems common scense but maybe thats just me.
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I read that earlier. I like that they had to outline "Appropriate" dress for weigh in's. Seems common scense but maybe thats just me.
Ha, I agree. Perhaps they thought it was common sense, but based on situations that have come up, they feel as if they need to address it with a rule...
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Anyone else see this??

http://www.themat.com/section.php?se...rticleID=21929

Seems as if they voted not to change the weight classes.

And there is much rejoicing by the 95 lb. 8th graders who were worried about losing their varsity spot next year to a 110 lb. sophomore.
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