Cael Sanderson

[PDSTCLAI]

I appreciate the blogs from Danny and the updates from cylonestate as an outsider its nice to know whats goin on more inside of the organization... im really drunk right now anyway Best of Luck to Cael and the rest of the Penn State Organization, college wrestling isnt used to these kind of coaching changes as college basketball and football are already accustomed too anyway i wish the best of luck to ISU and their search for a new coach.

[cyclonestate]

Originally Posted by PDSTCLAI

I appreciate the blogs from Danny and the updates from cylonestate as an outsider its nice to know whats goin on more inside of the organization... im really drunk right now anyway Best of Luck to Cael and the rest of the Penn State Organization, college wrestling isnt used to these kind of coaching changes as college basketball and football are already accustomed too anyway i wish the best of luck to ISU and their search for a new coach.

I hate to say it, but this is really good for the sport as long as ISU gets another great coach. The best thing for the sport(or the state) would be brands or gable to ISU, though both have publicly turned down the job.

[da champ]

is Cael Sanderson an LDS/morman???

[cyclonestate]

Originally Posted by da champ

is Cael Sanderson an LDS/morman???

Cael is a Mormon.

[PDSTCLAI]

Alton Brothers commit... Cael's impact already felt

[colonel kurtz]

It doesn't matter if your leaving one school to go coach at your Alma mater(Brands). A coach leaving his Alma mater to coach somewhere else(Sanderson). Or a student that transfers because he didn't get the job done in the classroom(Burk). It's all BS, you give your word to a coach, kids, team, program, school you stick with it until your contract is up.

Originally Posted by Danny Burk

[i]NOTE:
I root for the real people, those that stick it out even when things are hard. There is no easy road in life, so it is pointless to go searching for it. Just because a situation is hard, it doesn't mean you run and hide. If you truly have faith, then you stay. I do not think Cael had true faith in this situation, either in himself, or the people at ISU.

And to see this makes me shake my head and want to ask if anyone in your family said this to duke? but please don't answer it' not my business and and I"m not tryin to hold you to task fpr the actions of another. I see this as Karma comin around. Maybe the feelings your having now can give you a better view on what transpired a year ago and its effects.

just my opinions

[oldpioneer]

Very interesting reading. I agree that there are many factors........most of all to build a program from scratch and start anew.....one that he hasn't walked the campus as an undergrad. Simply put though,...........where would we all be if we never left our first job?......I would be slingin burgers and cutting onions. In life, when one door closes another opens.

[Danny Burk]

Originally Posted by colonel kurtz

It doesn't matter if your leaving one school to go coach at your Alma mater(Brands). A coach leaving his Alma mater to coach somewhere else(Sanderson). Or a student that transfers because he didn't get the job done in the classroom(Burk). It's all BS, you give your word to a coach, kids, team, program, school you stick with it until your contract is up.





And to see this makes me shake my head and want to ask if anyone in your family said this to duke? but please don't answer it' not my business and and I"m not tryin to hold you to task fpr the actions of another. I see this as Karma comin around. Maybe the feelings your having now can give you a better view on what transpired a year ago and its effects.

just my opinions

See, it is a little bit different though. Duke didnt leave NIU because of the grades. That is the reason he asked for the initial release, but he was still staying at NIU when they denied that release. Without saying too much about the situation, he was basically left with very little choice besides to leave NIU. The coaches showed very little loyalty to him. I can not say too much about in a public forum about it, but that is what it came down to. They took it personal when he asked for the initial release, and even though he decided to stay, they didnt accept him back to the team. So, the lack of loyalty wasnt coming from Duke (again, I honestly cant go into detail). It would have been like the AD at ISU telling Cael he had to sign a brand new contract and abide by all these new rules in order to be the coach, just because Cael was interviewed for another job. If that had been the case, then I wouldnt be so against Cael's decision.

Also, when Duke initially went to NIU, I was there. Family was there. The coaches and team that was there when he signed with NIU is no longer there. A lot has changed. The team is a ghost of its old self. At ISU, nothing had changed. Not one thing. Cael's family was at ISU. Always had been. That is why he went there in the first place, and that is why he claimed it to be his dream job. The family situation never changed, but the money situation did.....

I can see where the situations can be similar in some people's eyes, but being close to both, I can kind of form a decent opinion about each one. I have said before that I see Cael's reasoning. But, still, I think he is taking the easy way out. And, I am not alone in that thought. Regardless of why Duke left NIU, I do not think anyone could consider it "taking the easy way out". Perhaps, really, the complete opposite. And that is what it comes down to. I am not here to defend my brother's loyalty. I dont need a public forum to express my feelings towards him. He didnt take the easy way out. He went from a team going on a downward spiral to a team competing for the national title.

I am not sure where you get off saying this is "Karma". Life is what it is. Different situations present different paths of life. Cael leaving ISU had nothing to do with Duke. Duke leaving NIU had nothing to do with loyalty on Duke's part. Someday if we ever meet face to face, I can explain a bit more and maybe you'd understand a little bit better.

[Danny Burk]

Originally Posted by oldpioneer

Very interesting reading. I agree that there are many factors........most of all to build a program from scratch and start anew.....one that he hasn't walked the campus as an undergrad. Simply put though,...........where would we all be if we never left our first job?......I would be slingin burgers and cutting onions. In life, when one door closes another opens.

Ah, I agree. But, how often do we get our "dream job" or "the job I have always wanted" and then leave 3 years later for a lesser job, but more money??

[MR TWISTER]

This is an interesting read...a lot of different senarios are poping up...sort of like a reality t.v. show...but don't tell Gov. Rod or he will want in...