Athlete's dad files suit over penalty

[MR TWISTER]

Originally Posted by Twenty4/7

Another side of this story is that the school has a program that if you get caught with tobaco and you do the schools rehab program its like a 1 free time thing where they delete it like it never happened. Well luke did that program the first time and now it doesnt matter for some reason because this coach writes a letter.

So if I am reading this right and doing the math then there were 4 violations because the first time he got caught but did the rehab class (which did not work BTW) so they deleted that violation and he came back with 3 more violations. The more I read about this the worse it seems to me...

[BARR]

Originally Posted by Luvwrestling

You are right...the Code of Conduct book in plain English points out the consequences. This should be the end of the story. But like the Futrell thread, this will go on and on and on.....

Exactly..... there isn't much else to say about it. He knew the rules, signed the agreement, proceeded to break the rules (3 times)and is now getting the penalty that is spelled out in the Code of Conduct book.

[MTC140]

It's really too bad that nobody can read through your posts, yet they can read mine just fine, and I'm in high school.

Good one. The people we are arguing over/debating about, etc are in high school, yet once one of these high school kids come on here and talk we get bashed? Whatever man. Besides, how long have you been out of high school? Exactly, not that long. So quit acting like you're an ancient elder with great wisdom unknown to all others.

[admin]

Originally Posted by MR TWISTER

So if I am reading this right and doing the math then there were 4 violations because the first time he got caught but did the rehab class (which did not work BTW) and came back with 3 more violations. The more I read about this the worse it seems to me...

I think he's saying the first time shouldn't have counted because he took the class but it did for some reason.

[birdwatcher35]

I've tried very hard to not post on this thread for the simple reason of this appearing to be a no win situation.

Looking at the facts it is easy to take a stance behind the written rules, but harder to dwell in that position when you think about how it is affecting this student and his family. Our society/schools have rules in place for a reason and whether we agree with them or not, we still must abide by them.

If I as an adult am pulled over for speeding, can I really expect to try to use an arguement of "Well officer, you know I speed every day and there are no consequences when you don't stop me. Why should you have to give me a ticket now?" I don't think so. I know the rules and it is my choice to break them, nobody is forcing me to. There are times when you will catch a break and times you will not. What we will never know is if Lucas was extended any breaks and still got caught three times, and frankly it doesn't matter. To make a blanket statement as one poster did that it seems like a football coach might have it out for him is rediculous. That football coach, who I assume is a teacher as well, could potentially be in just as much trouble for not reporting what he saw by rules of his own contract.

Wrestling preaches and requires more discipline than any other sport I know, these decisions were not based on that concept. We will all fall short and make poor choices at one point or another in our lives, what truly defines us as individuals is how we come through them. A three strike policy is more than fair and hard to argue against when you really think about it. It is not the actual offense that is on trial here, it is the principle of following the rules/laws that are in place.

It amuses and disturbs me at the same time that we live in a society that looking the other way or making exceptions to rules is so common and expected in certain instances. I will say this in closing, I empathize with the Roth family as well as the wrestling community because we are missing out on watching one of the best in the state this year, but at the same time, I have to support the schools decision and not the families lawsuit.

[MR TWISTER]

Originally Posted by admin

I think he's saying the first time shouldn't have counted because he took the class but it did for some reason.

I guess...but once would be one too many at my house..I would have my foot so far up his butt...I imagine that scared off some college coaches because they questioned his character and discipline.

[Artheritis]

Gotta love the comment about taking these things case by case. In other words, let's politicize it. He's a star, so he should be treated differently than the other atheletes in the school?
That's a terrible idea. Set the rules, spell out the consiquenses, and if the rule is broken , stick to your priciples. No special treatment because he's a atar, or a teacher/school board member' kid.
Our school had a "caught drinking" incident, where many of the Poms were caught at a party. The school's policy was spelled out in black & white: "1/4 season suspension & 8 saturdays in a training program". Unfortunately they were caught 2 weeks before state. One of the girls daddy's was on the school board. As a result, it was determined that "8 days training, taking place before the start of school each day" would be O.K. "in this case". Since then, other students have broken the same rule, without the relaxed penalty. Fair?

[Twenty4/7]

Originally Posted by MR TWISTER

So if I am reading this right and doing the math then there were 4 violations because the first time he got caught but did the rehab class (which did not work BTW) so they deleted that violation and he came back with 3 more violations. The more I read about this the worse it seems to me...

no he did the rehab and it didnt count for anything. from my understanding he was under the impression if he did the rehab(that he had to miss class for) it would take away one of the offenses. obviously that wasnt the case so what was the point?

[wagon0619]

Originally Posted by baddoz11

Is it possible this "teacher" was following him just waitin for him to do it??? Sounds like it could possibly be a grudge!!! (If this is true of course)

Yeah, I heard he had 24 hour survelliance on his house and cameras installed too.

[wagon0619]

Originally Posted by Twenty4/7

no he did the rehab and it didnt count for anything. from my understanding he was under the impression if he did the rehab(that he had to miss class for) it would take away one of the offenses. obviously that wasnt the case so what was the point?

Follow the link below and read the code. Nowhere does it say that by taking the course the offense is dropped. An assement program is MANDATORY in the cases of alcohol, tobacoo or drugs!