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So Zimmerman is being charged with 2nd degree murder. Good luck trying to prove that one. If they wanted a conviction they would have been wiser to go with manslaughter.
I'm sure it won't help the prosecution that Trayvon's mother just came out it was more or less an accident that got out of hand. Manslaughter would make more sense.
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They always start with 319 felonies and drop and convict with 1-2 with a sentence.

Kind of like a bidding at an auction.
Start high and get what you want...
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Got him looking like Danny Trejo Soon...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...143832017.html

Lawyers in this case are very smart.
"Make him look like an (ESE or VATO)!
"Ah Heck Yea, Puuuuut Hieeem In A Plaid Flannel Like On Colors".
lol.
"Make him Look Like the Guy In the Movie That has All The Tattoos That Is All Muscular And Chit"!
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Got him looking like Danny Trejo Soon...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...143832017.html

Lawyers in this case are very smart.
"Make him look like an (ESE or VATO)!
"Ah Heck Yea, Puuuuut Hieeem In A Plaid Flannel Like On Colors".
lol.
"Make him Look Like the Guy In the Movie That has All The Tattoos That Is All Muscular And Chit"!

So your saying he should have hired Edward James Olmos or Jimmy Smits as his attorney? lol
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So your saying he should have hired Edward James Olmos or Jimmy Smits as his attorney? lol
lol...

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It was a...
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Old 04-13-2012
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lol...

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Or maybe Antonio Mendoza can report on the trial. Extra ENCHILADAS and CHIMICHANGAS please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGjty394oyw
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I'm sure it won't help the prosecution that Trayvon's mother just came out it was more or less an accident that got out of hand. Manslaughter would make more sense.

he should have been charged with that originally...not to say you or he should be convicted of it, but he did kill a man.
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Taking the original White vs. Black right out of the equation.
Plus the Zimmerman photo in a Stereotype "Vato" mug shot.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending...043707411.html
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Crazy imo. (bold)

"Stand your ground" vs. self-defense:
possible legal arguments in the case of State of Florida v. Zimmerman
Incident Self-defense argument "Stand your ground" argument
Neighborhood watch co-captain George Zimmerman sees a stranger in the Sanford community. He calls 911, and the operator cautions him not to follow. Zimmerman ignores the recommendation. Action weakens self-defense argument. Not relevant. "Following somebody is not provocation to get punched." (Criminal defense attorney Richard Hornsby, "Talk of the Nation," NPR)
Zimmerman is carrying a concealed weapon. Not relevant. Not relevant. "There is not an exception to the law that says if you're doing something stupid, or risky, or not in your best interest, that 'stand your ground' doesn't apply," [Steven Romine, a Tampa Bay lawyer who has invoked "stand your ground" successfully], said. (April 1, Tampa Bay Times)
Zimmerman allegedly confronts Trayvon Martin. Relevant. "Under Florida law, like most law, if you are the first aggressor in a confrontation, you forfeit the right to self-defense. So... if a court or a jury determines that George Zimmerman somehow attacked Trayvon Martin, maybe by grabbing him or some other means, then Zimmerman can't claim the right to stand his ground because he's forfeited his right to defend himself because of his initial aggression." (South Texas College of Law professor Geofrey Corn, "Talk of the Nation," NPR) Relevant.
Zimmerman claims he was returning to his SUV when Martin confronted him, then punched him. Relevant. "[I]f you believe George Zimmerman's version, that he got punched without provocation... following somebody is not provocation to get punched, and he had no other resort because he was on the ground, and he couldn't retreat even under the old law if he wanted to. Well, that's a pretty clear-cut case of self-defense." (Criminal defense attorney Richard Hornsby, "Talk of the Nation," NPR) Relevant. This is where Martin can stand his ground and not retreat into the car.
"If you are the first aggressor, and the person that was the victim of your aggression responds excessively, or if you withdraw, and then the person is continuing to attack you, then your right of self-defense is restored." (Corn, "Talk of the Nation," NPR)
According to Zimmerman, Martin punches him and brings him to the ground. Relevant. Relevant. "The real issue [in Stand Your Ground] is what happens around the 60 seconds prior to the shooting." (Ed Griffith, a spokesman for the Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office, Tampa Bay Times)
Someone is heard in the 911 tapes calling for help. Relevant. If it's Zimmerman, it bolsters self-defense. If it's Martin, it undermines self-defense. Relevant. If it's Zimmerman, it bolsters self-defense. If it's Martin, it undermines self-defense.
"[W]hose voice you're hearing calling for help is outcome determinative on this issue. I don't think see how George Zimmerman can successfully articulate the stand your ground defense." (Political analyst Michael Smerconish, MSNBC)
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Following someone in my opinion and scaring the Sh*t out of someone at night is the aggressor.

Relevant. "Under Florida law, like most law, if you are the first aggressor in a confrontation, you forfeit the right to self-defense.

Lawyers should use the "he was following me theory".
Following to me has intention.
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