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Old 01-09-2008
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Red face What's going on at 140?

In our on-air commentary during Illinois Matmen's Dvorak webcast, we talked about the 140-pound weight class and how strong it was at that tournament.

And with the likes of Wheaton North’s Eric Terrazas, Fenwick’s Bobby Barnhisel, Rockton Hononegah’s Rob Fenicle, St. Rita’s Mike Migawa and Yorkville’s Derek Jones all wrestling there, the Illinois presence was very strong, even though nobody in that group claimed the Dvorak championship.

But starting with the Berman Holiday Classic at Palatine the next week, 140 started getting a lot more interesting.

Rock Island’s Reese Taylor, Downers Grove North’s Joe Foreman, Hinsdale South’s Jon Goldsher and Minooka’s Ryan Warczynski all came down from 145 to compete at Palatine. And Lincoln-Way Central state champion Josh Kratovil went the other direction – up from 135 – for a little extra competition. He got it in the finals from Taylor, whom he beat 6-1 in a battle of unbeatens.

The exodus from 145 continued last week as another pair of senior unbeatens, Glenbard South’s Mark Griffin and Burlington Central’s Curt Mastio, also made the drop. Both went on to win tournament titles last weekend. So did the weight’s top-ranked wrestler, state placewinner Danny Monaco of Glenbard North, who was impressive at The Clash National Duals at Rochester, Minn. with a 6-0 record.

So what’s happening? Apparently, Monaco’s workout partner, Vince Ramos, is considered untouchable at 145. At 140, though Monaco seems head and shoulders above the rest, he has lost to Fenicle this year – so all the key players obviously have high hopes that they’ll put together the hot weekend at the right time.

But there’s another question: What if Kratovil finds the landscape at 140 so inviting that he decides to stay there? And what would Kratovil’s defection do to the 135-pound weight class – and to 130, if one or more of those principals (Oak Park-River Forest’s Ellis Coleman?) decides to stay up a weight. Maybe one of those counting on the hot weekend at 140 may see if he can make it happen at 135 instead.

The additions to 140 also have made a mess of several sectionals. Let’s start with Fenton – in particular, the Willowbrook regional. There you’ll find Foreman, Griffin and Goldsher…along with Montini’s Alex Saunders and Lyons Township’s Pat Murphy. Even for the standouts, it will be the battle of a lifetime just to advance to Fenton. There, Barnhisel, St. Patrick’s Jimmy DiNino, Elk Grove’s Robert Pechacek and Glenbard West’s Paul Stano will be part of the field.

The Lake Park regional doesn’t provide any margin for error, either, with Monaco, Terrazas and Hoffman Estates' Tommy Wadas all there. The sectional, at Naperville North, brings Epp and Plainfield Central’s Josh Toton into play from the Romeoville regional.

And last, but not least, at the Rock Island sectional, the home-mat advantage may not do much for Taylor. Assuming he gets past Sterling’s Austin Hanabarger in the Moline regional, he’ll have Fenicle, Mastio and Jones all waiting for him.

Kratovil (should he stay here), Migawa, Warczynski and Grant state champion Lee Munster should have little difficulty advancing.

It’s safe to say we haven’t seen the last of the seismic shifts at this weight class.

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Don't forget, the 2 lb allowance kicked in January 1. So, for example, if Rock Island's Reese Taylor feels best at 142 pounds, he had to wrestle up all year. He loses a couple to get in the 140 pound scratch weight one time and he can wrestle 140 at his natural weight of 142 the rest of the year. This could explain some of it.
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Yes, but the allowance applies to every weight class. Movement from one weight class to another is based more on going against or avoiding certain individuals at another weight than on the allowance. If that were not true, we'd see people going down to 145, too. Or from 140 to 135. Gee, why don't we? It also doesn't explain why Kratovil might decide to stay at 140, where he's going against guys we know are bigger.

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Old 01-09-2008
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Adding depth to the complexity, at Sycamore, Taylor beat Fenicle 9-4 and then lost to Munster 8-5. I would have to like Kratovil or Munster. Nothing like winning a state title already to provide experience in the quest for gold.

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Old 01-10-2008
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If strength of schedule and quality of workout partners matters, Monaco is the clear favorite. If having been a state champion matters, he's not. It's a wide-open weight class whether Kratovil is there or not. The hot weekend test will truly be on display.
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Rob..... Monaco is a very good wrestler and he is having an outstanding year, but there is no way that he is the "clear favorite" or "head and shoulders above the rest".

IF, and that is a big IF right now, Kratovil stays at 140 he is a 3x state finalist. How is Monaco a clear favorite over him? Munster won state as a Freshman and has been dominating so far this season. Again how is Monaco a clear favorite over him?

You said "strength of schedule and quality workout partners".... well GBN definitely wrestles the tougher schedule of the three schools, but Munster and Kratovil have some pretty good workout partners too.

Again, Monaco is a definitely a conteder and having an outstanding year, but he isn't on another level than the other 140's.

IMO Munster wins this weight class.
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Reread my statement. It was conditional and based solely on schedule and workout partners. Of course there are other factors; I only addressed those two. Munster seems to have a lot of karma right now and I won't disagree with you if he's your pick. He also has a much easier road in his sectional than Monaco does in his, which may make a difference in terms of bracketing.
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You first post said... "Monaco seems head and shoulders about the rest". There weren't conditions attached with it. If you are basing it on strength of schedule, there isn't much to debate, but if you are basing it on workout partners we could debate that. If you want to base it on past results, well..... Like "Dispatchguy" said, Kratovil and Munster have been there and done that (winning state). There is nothing to debate here either.

Now before people get mad, I am not putting Monaco down at all. He is tough and will be right there and one of the front runners, but I don't think he is in a class all by himself at 140. It will be a fun weight class to follow....
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